Received: from LNXP265MB1194.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10a6:401:5e::21) by CWXP265MB0245.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM with HTTPS via CWLP265CA0369.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 07:50:16 +0000 Received: from LNXP265MB1401.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (20.176.133.144) by LNXP265MB1194.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (20.176.131.149) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.1622.19; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 07:50:15 +0000 Received: from LNXP265MB1401.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::f196:3a3a:6ee8:3685]) by LNXP265MB1401.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::f196:3a3a:6ee8:3685%4]) with mapi id 15.20.1622.018; Wed, 20 Feb 2019 07:50:15 +0000 From: "Mitchell, Harry" To: "Ballam, Rachel" Subject: RE: Consultee Comments for Planning Application APP/18/00287 Thread-Topic: Consultee Comments for Planning Application APP/18/00287 Thread-Index: AQHUqYmKbiRzhN6WRUyVD8Q/1ML9iKWp4ArQgD1fhZCAADv8UIABEsJg Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 07:50:15 +0000 Message-ID: References: <611436270.445.1547196128361@havant.gov.uk> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthMechanism: 04 X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: LNXP265MB1401.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-Exchange-Organization-Network-Message-Id: 97064728-eb31-4fe0-aaa3-08d697080d1a X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SCL: -1 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MS-Exchange-Organization-RecordReviewCfmType: 0 x-ms-publictraffictype: Email X-Microsoft-Antispam-Mailbox-Delivery: ucf:0;jmr:0;ex:0;auth:0;dest:I;ENG:(750119)(520011016)(706158)(944506303)(944626516); X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: KU2GuhaZ7J37mJEoVUmIIcyeofuFP1wEFCW44W6jSswhAZudp+3cFO/X+iKuud3cJiuV1qPm+T9sB9EITOK7yxIpLqw5VGzIEE49wlpO/PU1m7dKKx9ITUUUpoGfzc6wOFxDUWT5JdKFyNeWD5rhwKCHd4twWCnctkl5l7ftxchTxUursHQQCd2KsXEh9srNw/BQF8dlSHX+P/XdjfhU3caYup0FAZVh+66Ua8vdGgJ1HBA0yNtSyBEl/CRh8zpuj1TdSFtD759v3yyz6z0g7E5PcgFMfTDqOV38849P6tKan4pQ0yCoXarjW51ZrWQ2FPFJ4xyzGGAhhsVznSOdFvdEE6RqS4PYlp7Aija6hH+92lnrXa1fy+lIhKXtb9F7mI+vxjgBnY2DgScpdxqV7dieSnePgXeaWm+Yh7Jk/qoxGd07x2Kk1iENiH3sZ91y Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_LNXP265MB14016AF5E142CFF565D67380DE7D0LNXP265MB1401GBRP_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_LNXP265MB14016AF5E142CFF565D67380DE7D0LNXP265MB1401GBRP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Rachel, Having reviewed the amended landscape plan in conjunction with the below note I can confirm I have no further comments. Kind regards, Harry Mitchell Landscape Architect Havant Borough Council Email -harry.mitchell@havant.gov.uk From: Ballam, Rachel Sent: 19 February 2019 15:28 To: Mitchell, Harry Subject: FW: Consultee Comments for Planning Application APP/18/00287 Good afternoon Harry, Further to your consultation response in respect of Conditions 9 of the above application site the attached amended landscape plan and below information have been submitted by in the applicant as per your advice. Your revised comments regarding the discharge of Condition 9 would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Rachel Ballam Planning Officer: Conditions Discharge and Compliance Planning Services Havant Borough Council Public Service Plaza Civic Centre Road Havant PO9 2AX Direct Line: +4423 92 446 143 rachel.ballam@havant.gov.uk www.havant.gov.uk www.facebook.com/havantboroughcouncil www.twitter.com/havantborough If you are requesting information under the Freedom of Information Act, Environmental Information Regulations or Date Protection Act then please redirect your email to customer.services@havant.gov.uk. Any statutory timeframe for a response for requests will not commence until the request is received by the Customer Services Team. Information in this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system immediately. Your privacy matters, go to: www.havant.gov.uk/privacy-policy From: Warren Rosing [mailto:wrosing@hale-adm.com] Sent: 19 February 2019 13:11 To: Ballam, Rachel > Cc: Roland Lee > Subject: RE: Consultee Comments for Planning Application APP/18/00287 Dear Ms Ballam First of all please accept our apologies for not getting back sooner. As I mentioned when we spoke on 11 February 2019, there seems to be some confusion about the height of the trees being proposed. Your Landscape Officer stated that "The specified size/height of the proposed trees is not deemed acceptable. The design intent was to help soften the excessive building height into the landscape and planting at 1m height would take too long to achieve the desired screening. As such we require a minimum planting specification on all trees to be 4.0-5.0m 18-20 Extra Heavy." We note that the trees that have been specified as having a girth of 12-14cm girth at 1m above ground level. We have been told that these trees will in fact have an approximate height of 3.00 - 3.50m and are classified as Selected Standard in line with EU Regulations. There is also a concern that the larger trees will be more prone to drought in the first few years. We have also been told by the Landscaper that further to their experience, smaller trees have a tendency to establish more rapidly and also do not have as much requirement for watering during the first two planting seasons, as would say a larger tree. This is because there is less available leaf surface area for evaporation during the summer months. All trees and shrubs will require watering and for this reason they will be a program of maintenance visits. Their scope of works includes for underground guying to larger trees / double-staking with proprietary toms ties, and tubex shrubshelters to native hedging plants to prevent damage by deer and rabbits. Each tree has an irrigation pipe installed to allow for top up watering through the growing season. Further comments from your Landscape Officer go on to say: "Additionally the tree species and proposed form type does not offer the optimum screening coverage. The use of multi-stem along Harts Farm way is not deemed appropriate. For example the proposed Hazel has an ultimate spread of 4-8m which exceeds the allocated planting area and will require extensive pruning, which will be to the detriment of the tree. As such we would request trees with a fastigiate form, which is deemed more appropriate for the proposed location. Possible trees could include: Betula pendula Fastigiate 'Obelisk', Pyrus calleryana 'Chanticleer' and Acer campestre 'Streetwise" and "We require screening tree planting within the south east planting bed as this will be a prominent aspect of the building when traveling west on Harts Farm Way." We are happy to replace the proposed trees with fastigiate options and suggest moving the trees from the entrance bell mouth to the South East corner to add some screening here. Please see attached a revised plan showing this. We also note the client has put in an application for revised fencing that will fun to the back of the yards thus allowing the planting to be on the street side of the fence which will soften the street edge and views of the site. I trust this helps clarify matters and allay the Landscape Officer's concerns. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you need anything further. Kind regards Warren Rosing hale architecture : design management 22c Leathermarket Street London SE1 3HP www.hale-adm.com M: 07969 385 883 DD: 020 7993 8247 T: 020 7740 0950 From: Ballam, Rachel > Sent: 11 January 2019 10:38 To: Warren Rosing > Subject: FW: Consultee Comments for Planning Application APP/18/00287 Dear Mr Rosing, The below consultation response has been received from the Landscape Officer. Minor revisions to the landscape plan have been requested in respect of Condition 9. Kind regards, Rachel Ballam Planning Officer: Conditions Discharge and Compliance Planning Services Havant Borough Council Public Service Plaza Civic Centre Road Havant PO9 2AX Direct Line: +4423 92 446 143 rachel.ballam@havant.gov.uk www.havant.gov.uk www.facebook.com/havantboroughcouncil www.twitter.com/havantborough If you are requesting information under the Freedom of Information Act, Environmental Information Regulations or Date Protection Act then please redirect your email to customer.services@havant.gov.uk. Any statutory timeframe for a response for requests will not commence until the request is received by the Customer Services Team. Information in this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system immediately. Your privacy matters, go to: www.havant.gov.uk/privacy-policy From: planning.development@havant.gov.uk [mailto:planning.development@havant.gov.uk] Sent: 11 January 2019 08:42 To: Ballam, Rachel > Subject: Consultee Comments for Planning Application APP/18/00287 A consultee has commented on a Planning Application. A summary of the comments is provided below. Comments were submitted at 8:41 AM on 11 Jan 2019 from Consultee Landscape Civil Engineering & Landscape Team (landscape@havant.gov.uk) on behalf of Landscape Team. Application Summary Reference: APP/18/00287 Address: Former Council Depot Site, Harts Farm Way, Havant PO9 1FA Proposal: Phased development comprising the erection of 3No. warehouses (Class B2/B8) (two warehouse buildings to be erected in phase 1 and one warehouse building to be erected in phase 2) and associated parking and access from Hermitage Park. (Approved 18.06.18). Request to discharge condition 5 (28.06.18).Request to discharge conditions 6, 7 & 8 for Phase 1, units 1-4 (14.09.18). Request to Discharge Conditions 9 and 10 (12.12.18) Case Officer: Rachel Ballam Click for further information Comments Details Comments: Planning Application APP/18/00287 Former Council Depot Site, Harts Farm Way, Havant PO9 1FA Phased development comprising the erection of 3No. warehouses (Class B2/B8) (two warehouse buildings to be erected in phase 1 and one warehouse building to be erected in phase 2) and associated parking and access from Hermitage Park. (Approved 8.06.18). Request to discharge condition 5 (28.06.18).Request to discharge conditions 6, 7 & 8 for Phase 1, units 1-4 (14.09.18). Request to Discharge Conditions 9 and 10 (12.12.18) From a landscape perspective we have the following comments in relation to the discharge of conditions: Condition 9 - The specified size/height of the proposed trees is not deemed acceptable. The design intent was to help soften the excessive building height into the landscape and planting at 1m height would take too long to achieve the desired screening. As such we require a minimum planting specification on all trees to be 4.0-5.0m 18-20 Extra Heavy. - Additionally the tree species and proposed form type does not offer the optimum screening coverage. The use of multi-stem along Harts Farm way is not deemed appropriate. For example the proposed Hazel has an ultimate spread of 4-8m which exceeds the allocated planting area and will require extensive pruning, which will be to the detriment of the tree. As such we would request trees with a fastigiate form, which is deemed more appropriate for the proposed location. Possible trees could include: Betula pendula Fastigiate 'Obelisk', Pyrus calleryana 'Chanticleer' and Acer campestre 'Streetwise' - We require screening tree planting within the south east planting bed as this will be a prominent aspect of the building when traveling west on Harts Farm Way. Condition 10 - No further comments. Kind regards, Harry Mitchell Landscape Architect Havant Borough Council Email -harry.mitchell@havant.gov.uk --_000_LNXP265MB14016AF5E142CFF565D67380DE7D0LNXP265MB1401GBRP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

Hello Rachel,

 

Having reviewed the amended landscape plan in conjunction with the below note I can confirm I have no further comments.

 

Kind regards,

 

Harry Mitchell

Landscape Architect

Havant Borough Council

Email –harry.mitchell@havant.gov.uk

 

 

 

From: Ballam, Rachel
Sent: 19 February 2019 15:28
To: Mitchell, Harry <harry.mitchell@havant.gov.uk>
Subject: FW: Consultee Comments for Planning Application APP/18/00287

 

Good afternoon Harry,

 

Further to your consultation response in respect of Conditions 9 of the above application site the attached amended landscape plan and below information have been submitted by in the applicant as per your advice.

 

Your revised comments regarding the discharge of Condition 9 would be greatly appreciated.

 

Kind regards,

 

Rachel Ballam

Planning Officer: Conditions Discharge and Compliance 

Planning Services 
Havant Borough Council 
Public Service Plaza

Civic Centre Road
Havant 
PO9 2AX 
Direct Line: +4423 92 446 143

rachel.ballam@havant.gov.uk

www.havant.gov.uk

www.facebook.com/havantboroughcouncil

www.twitter.com/havantborough

 

If you are requesting information under the Freedom of Information Act, Environmental Information Regulations or Date Protection Act then please redirect your email to customer.services@havant.gov.uk.  Any statutory timeframe for a response for requests will not commence until the request is received by the Customer Services Team.

 

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From: Warren Rosing [mailto:wrosing@hale-adm.com]
Sent: 19 February 2019 13:11
To: Ballam, Rachel <Rachel.Ballam@havant.gov.uk>
Cc: Roland Lee <rlee@hale-adm.com>
Subject: RE: Consultee Comments for Planning Application APP/18/00287

 

Dear Ms Ballam

 

First of all please accept our apologies for not getting back sooner.

 

As I mentioned when we spoke on 11 February 2019, there seems to be some confusion about the height of the trees being proposed. Your Landscape Officer stated  that ”The specified size/height of the proposed trees is not deemed acceptable. The design intent was to help soften the excessive building height into the landscape and planting at 1m height would take too long to achieve the desired screening. As such we require a minimum planting specification on all trees to be 4.0-5.0m 18-20 Extra Heavy.”  We note that the trees that have been specified as having a girth of 12-14cm girth at 1m above ground level. We have been told that these trees will in fact have an approximate height of 3.00 – 3.50m and are classified as Selected Standard in line with EU Regulations.  

 

There is also a concern that the larger trees will be more prone to drought in the first few years. We have also been told by the Landscaper that further to their experience, smaller trees have a tendency to establish more rapidly and also do not have as much requirement for watering during the first two planting seasons, as would say a larger tree. This is because there is less available leaf surface area for evaporation during the summer months. All trees and shrubs will require watering and for this reason they will be a program of maintenance visits. Their scope of works includes for underground guying to larger trees / double-staking with proprietary toms ties, and tubex shrubshelters to native hedging plants to prevent damage by deer and rabbits. Each tree has an irrigation pipe installed to allow for top up watering through the growing season.

 

Further comments from your Landscape Officer go on to say:

“Additionally the tree species and proposed form type does not offer the optimum screening coverage. The use of multi-stem along Harts Farm way is not deemed appropriate. For example the proposed Hazel has an ultimate spread of 4-8m which exceeds the allocated planting area and will require extensive pruning, which will be to the detriment of the tree. As such we would request trees with a fastigiate form, which is deemed more appropriate for the proposed location. Possible trees could include: Betula pendula Fastigiate ‘Obelisk’, Pyrus calleryana ‘Chanticleer’ and Acer campestre ‘Streetwise”  and

“We require screening tree planting within the south east planting bed as this will be a prominent aspect of the building when traveling west on Harts Farm Way.”

 

We are happy to replace the proposed trees with fastigiate options and suggest moving the trees from the entrance bell mouth to the South East corner to add some screening here. Please see attached a revised plan showing this. We also note the client has put in an application for revised fencing that will fun to the back of the yards thus allowing the planting to be on the street side of the fence which will soften the street edge and views of the site.

 

I trust this helps clarify matters and allay the Landscape Officer’s concerns.

 

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you need anything further.

 

 

Kind regards

 

 

 

Warren Rosing

 

hale

architecture : design management

 

22c Leathermarket Street

London

SE1 3HP

 

www.hale-adm.com

 

M: 07969 385 883

DD: 020 7993 8247

 

T: 020 7740 0950

 

From: Ballam, Rachel <Rachel.Ballam@havant.gov.uk>
Sent: 11 January 2019 10:38
To: Warren Rosing <wrosing@hale-adm.com>
Subject: FW: Consultee Comments for Planning Application APP/18/00287

 

Dear Mr Rosing,

 

The below consultation response has been received from the Landscape Officer.

 

Minor revisions to the landscape plan have been requested in respect of Condition 9.

 

Kind regards,

 

Rachel Ballam

Planning Officer: Conditions Discharge and Compliance 

Planning Services 
Havant Borough Council 
Public Service Plaza

Civic Centre Road
Havant 
PO9 2AX 
Direct Line: +4423 92 446 143

rachel.ballam@havant.gov.uk

www.havant.gov.uk

www.facebook.com/havantboroughcouncil

www.twitter.com/havantborough

 

If you are requesting information under the Freedom of Information Act, Environmental Information Regulations or Date Protection Act then please redirect your email to customer.services@havant.gov.uk.  Any statutory timeframe for a response for requests will not commence until the request is received by the Customer Services Team.

 

Information in this message is confidential and may be privileged.  It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed.  If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete the message from your system immediately.

 

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From: planning.development@havant.gov.uk [mailto:planning.development@havant.gov.uk]
Sent: 11 January 2019 08:42
To: Ballam, Rachel <Rachel.Ballam@havant.gov.uk>
Subject: Consultee Comments for Planning Application APP/18/00287

 

A consultee has commented on a Planning Application. A summary of the comments is provided below.

Comments were submitted at 8:41 AM on 11 Jan 2019 from Consultee Landscape Civil Engineering & Landscape Team (landscape@havant.gov.uk) on behalf of Landscape Team.

Application Summary

Reference:

APP/18/00287

Address:

Former Council Depot Site, Harts Farm Way, Havant PO9 1FA

Proposal:

Phased development comprising the erection of 3No. warehouses (Class B2/B8) (two warehouse buildings to be erected in phase 1 and one warehouse building to be erected in phase 2) and associated parking and access from Hermitage Park. (Approved 18.06.18). Request to discharge condition 5 (28.06.18).Request to discharge conditions 6, 7 & 8 for Phase 1, units 1-4 (14.09.18). Request to Discharge Conditions 9 and 10 (12.12.18)

Case Officer:

Rachel Ballam

Click for further information

 

Comments Details

Comments:

Planning Application APP/18/00287 Former Council Depot Site, Harts Farm Way, Havant PO9 1FA

Phased development comprising the erection of 3No. warehouses (Class B2/B8) (two warehouse buildings to be erected in phase 1 and one warehouse building to be erected in phase 2) and associated parking and access from Hermitage Park. (Approved 8.06.18). Request to discharge condition 5 (28.06.18).Request to discharge conditions 6, 7 & 8 for Phase 1, units 1-4 (14.09.18). Request to Discharge Conditions 9 and 10 (12.12.18)

From a landscape perspective we have the following comments in relation to the discharge of conditions:

Condition 9

- The specified size/height of the proposed trees is not deemed acceptable. The design intent was to help soften the excessive building height into the landscape and planting at 1m height would take too long to achieve the desired screening. As such we require a minimum planting specification on all trees to be 4.0-5.0m 18-20 Extra Heavy.
- Additionally the tree species and proposed form type does not offer the optimum screening coverage. The use of multi-stem along Harts Farm way is not deemed appropriate. For example the proposed Hazel has an ultimate spread of 4-8m which exceeds the allocated planting area and will require extensive pruning, which will be to the detriment of the tree. As such we would request trees with a fastigiate form, which is deemed more appropriate for the proposed location. Possible trees could include: Betula pendula Fastigiate ‘Obelisk’, Pyrus calleryana ‘Chanticleer’ and Acer campestre ‘Streetwise’
- We require screening tree planting within the south east planting bed as this will be a prominent aspect of the building when traveling west on Harts Farm Way.

Condition 10

- No further comments.

Kind regards,

Harry Mitchell
Landscape Architect
Havant Borough Council
Email –harry.mitchell@havant.gov.uk

 

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